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What the hell is Uke and Seme?

Post  greven on Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:52 am

I like NaruSasu (Its gay fanart, if someone dont know) and I have been running into the terms Uke and Seme a lot, and you guys are the only ones I thought might know so... What the F does it mean?
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Post  Guest on Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:01 pm

u got me! i only know about and watch what you all direct me towards. confused

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Post  tara on Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:56 pm

I don't know which is which, but they mean "bottom" and "top", basically! One of the boys is a bottom, and typically more feminine and EEEEE heart, whereas the other is a top more masculine and brash.
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Re: What the hell is Uke and Seme?

Post  Guest on Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:59 pm

ah, tops and bottoms. That i understand. thanks for the info.

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Post  eSilva on Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:54 pm

OK. Heres how it goes.

One stands for bottom and submissive and that is Uke

the other

Stands for top and dominant which is the Seme.


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Re: What the hell is Uke and Seme?

Post  greven on Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:56 pm

Thanks for the help you guys Very Happy
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Post  shia on Sun May 10, 2009 3:37 pm

BUT here's the confusing part:

Which is which if the one receiving is on top...?
I always wondered that.

Also: are there any terms like that for yuri?
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Post  greven on Sun May 10, 2009 4:57 pm

You know shia, you just ruined everything I had gained from this thread and defied my very definition of reality with that one single question.

But I agree on the Yuri Q, does anyone know?

From what I know (and that is close to nothing) its seems that the "yuri counterpart" is more evenly distributed than the Yaoi.
Isnt that true? But hey all the info I got is from porn and Hentai :XD: and the ocasional story from the few lesbians I know. But really there isnt actually a giving part in Yuri is there?
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Post  shia on Sun May 10, 2009 5:44 pm

Oh, I love it when I do that for people. Razz

I dunno, I guess you're right... usually yuri is pretty equal, unless it's an S/M or D/s situation. Though every yuri I have ever read/watched has been absolutely terrible. Which makes me sad.
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Post  greven on Sun May 10, 2009 5:50 pm

I know that they are, but most porn you read watch is terrible in the sense of how this shit happens.
If they do a worse job with Yuri, I dont know, but I wouldnt be surprised.

Interesting fact: 72% of all porn stars that has been involved in lesbian porn are straight. And that really backs up your claim Smile
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Post  shia on Sun May 10, 2009 6:05 pm

Oh, I think I remember why I hate most yuri.
Because it isn't made for lesbians-- it's made for STRAIGHT GUYS. And it's really obvious.
Like if you watch porn where two girls start making out with a dildo. That is so obviously for guys.
And the fanfiction... just tends to not be good. Same with the stories.
It's sad, I want to find something good!
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Post  Guest on Sun May 10, 2009 6:26 pm

keep eSilva's original reply in mind when you discuss these top and bottom issues. More that anything, it really means the dominant and submissive personality. For example, you can still be a bottom and still run the show. It is also possible for both people to be versatile. And though the terms apply mostly to men, women use them too and everyone still knows what they mean. Does that help, i hope? Smile

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Post  shia on Sun May 10, 2009 6:35 pm

Hmm, I guess so. But most people seem to refer to seme as the one giving and uke as the one receiving, so then wouldn't the domineering bottom still be uke? Gah, I don't know. xD
I haven't seen females referred to with those terms though. Maybe they are the same?
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Post  greven on Sun May 10, 2009 6:46 pm

Yes Yuri porn is made for guys, there is no denying it, but that actually brings an interesting question to the scene: Does lesbians watch porn? I assume that some does, just like some straight girls (it is not really a question with the guys) do.
But what has really been giving me a headache is what kind of porn you/they watch, because if you say that the yuri porn sucks then what?
But that is too off topic, so I made the first (and why the hell did it take so long for anyone to make it?) Porn thread (as one of only 2 guys I guess it kind of HAD to be me who made it, just to honor my sex)

I would love to write some Yuri stories, but having no experience in that field at all (for obvious reasons) I would only add to the sea of shit out there Smile
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Post  shia on Sun May 10, 2009 6:48 pm

Dude you could totally write yuri and I could edit it. xD
I'm sure it wouldn't be utter shit. There is ALWAYS worse out there.
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Post  greven on Sun May 10, 2009 7:01 pm

This isnt about writing something that isnt the worst. This is about writing something that is actually good, and I dont think I can do that.
Thanks for the offer though Smile
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Post  Guest on Sun May 10, 2009 7:18 pm

ok, i was talking about in real life. In the comics though, Seme is the taller/older top and the Uke is the smaller/younger bottom and no these terms are not used for the girls. On DD, see DarkChibiShadows Wires 2. In Wires 2, Wasso is the Seme and David is the Uke. Real relationships can work like this but not always. That's the point i was trying to get across.

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Post  shia on Sun May 10, 2009 7:20 pm

But... but what if the bottom is older and more experienced than the top?
Yep, I always have to make things complicated.
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Post  greven on Sun May 10, 2009 7:23 pm

Looks shia this is how it works:

The one who takes control is the Seme, and the one who "takes it" is the Uke, no matter their individual position Smile
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Post  shia on Sun May 10, 2009 7:29 pm

Oh, okay.
Thanks. xD
I think I get it now.

Though that still leaves the yuri question...
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Post  eSilva on Mon May 11, 2009 7:09 pm

Ok so I was reading this and although Uke and Seme are used mainly to describe homo guys and their relationships, it is still used with Yuri as well. This is because Seme and Uke are not gender specific!! Smile they just translate to "attacker" (seme) and "reciever" (uke).

Fun tid bit here. Did you know that Yaoi is an acronym for "Yama nashi, ochi nashi, imi nashi" which means "No climax, No point, No meaning"

BUT and alternative to this acronym and a MUCH funnier one is "Yamete, oshiri ga itai!!" which means "STOP, my but hurts!" *doubles over laughing*

AND I'm sure this isn't new but Yaoi is centered toward a female audience, right. That's estabished. However what is it called when BL is centered and meant for a gay male audience? It's called "Gei Comi" or "Bara"! Very Happy.
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Post  greven on Mon May 11, 2009 10:39 pm



OMG! Love the second acromym XD

Yeah Yaoi seems to be targeted to the female audience, I still like it though Smile
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Post  eSilva on Mon May 11, 2009 11:46 pm

Understandable! Well Yaoi is much better then Yuri....as unfair as that is!!!

and that kitten is just great! Never had a pic as a response for something i posted! lol.
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Re: What the hell is Uke and Seme?

Post  Guest on Mon May 11, 2009 11:48 pm

you all need to stop posting cute animals or i'm gonna steal them! No

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There is only one answer to that

Post  greven on Tue May 12, 2009 12:09 am




Sorry there was no way I couldnt do that XD
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