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The creative process

Post  greven on Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:30 am

So we have gathered a good selection of writer, artist and comic writers/artists so I thought it was about time we got ourselves a thread about the actual creation process. I am talking everything from the techniques you use, the long nights in the dim light of the monitor, how you get your ideas, to the fire that drives you and makes you find your way to your keyboard or tablet time and time again.
In other words this is not about what you write or draw, this is about the writing or drawing experience.

I will humbly take on the task of toastmaster and will once a week, if I deem it necessary, provide a subject for discussion.


Let me kick things off here and ask you a simple question.
What makes you create (write/draw) and what is the best thing a viewer/reader could ever tell you?


Please dont feel bound by the subject I give here, I am just trying to get something started, if you have other things to discuss then that is awesome, and we will go in that direktion.
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Re: The creative process

Post  greven on Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:32 am

For me it is really a question of not being able NOT to write. I have always had stories developing inside this head of mine, and writing is really the only way I can get them out. The big problem comes from the times where I see a picture in my mind, since I couldn’t draw to save my life, I have to create small text bits that makes the reader see what I am thinking. I have a bunch of these things saved to be used in stories should the need arise.

I think the best thing a reader could tell me is that he got the joke. The thing is that most of my stories contains a small hint, or joke or little personal touch, and I would really love for someone to read just one of my stories close enough to find this little Easter egg. Sadly that has yet to happen.
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Re: The creative process

Post  ReiDavidson on Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:50 am

To me creativity is an outlet for my crazy fantasies and personality. I love to tell stories and if I don't tell stories, I may actually start lying about things that happen to me. D:

My favorite compliment is "This looks/seems professional." That's what I strive for. But on a more emotional level, I love to hear "This made my day!" or "I was sad but now I feel better."

It makes it worth it. ^^
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Re: The creative process

Post  Fly Hue on Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:13 pm

The thing that keeps me going, at least, for my main project is the principle, I'm 250+ pages in, so Goddamnit, I am going to finish it! That and the fact that I've made it in this far has taught me to feel a strong love for my characters and my story, and I want to do MORE with them.

The best thing...? My favorite comments are the ones where the readers can make connections, or even make fun of my characters. That means they're building an emotional bond. :)
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Re: The creative process

Post  Emilyelizabethx on Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:03 am

I write because its the first thing I think about when I wake up, and the last thing I think about. I love love love writing, and I have done it ever since I was three. Its my passion. If I don't write, I become really really depressed. Its the only thing I'm good at.

The best thing a reader can tell me is... well, that they well and truly liked it. I think one of the biggest realizations is that at least one person is certified to hate your work, and also someone is going to love it.
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Re: The creative process

Post  tara on Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:50 am

Now that I think about it, I don't really know why I create things. It's my life. I think and dream about stories 24/7. Which is why when things aren't going well with my creative endeavours I feel proportionally LOST and when things are going well, I am among the happiest on the planet!

As for what comments makes me happiest is, as I belive Fly Hue mentioned, character involvement. I love it when the audience goes beyond commenting on the obvious things, like art, and moves onto story!
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Re: The creative process

Post  Fly Hue on Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:56 am

I realize I also like unexpected reactions. Like... I made my St. Michael character out as a conceited jerk, but at the heart of it all he's honestly just a stupid jock that doesn't know any better. And though he's not that bad of a guy, people really resent him. I like getting that different perspective though.
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Re: The creative process

Post  curlpop on Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:37 am

I never develop characters fully or plan out whats going to happen. I usually have the main idea of what I want, but I always draw whatever I want into the comic. I develop characters as I write my stories. It's kind of weird and bites me in the ass sometimes, but you sort of feel your way through.
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Re: The creative process

Post  Fly Hue on Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:42 am

I don't hold that stuff against people. Yeah, supposedly it's one of those uncondonable things that a writer can't do... but most of us do it anyway. I don't understand the people that need to script out their work before they draw their comic, but if it helps to each his own, I guess.
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Re: The creative process

Post  tara on Sun Mar 08, 2009 9:25 pm

I don't script out at ALL. XD Ha ha! Sometimes I don't know until I get to that page, what will be on that page. (Speaking of Good Taste, here.) I find if I script out too much, I get bored and lose interest. THAT said, I do know things that I want to happen. It's just a matter of building bridges between scenes in my mind.
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Re: The creative process

Post  Fly Hue on Sun Mar 08, 2009 10:20 pm

Oh yes of course! I definitely always know what's coming up next! Planning out a plot is a healthy medium between making it up as you go and scripting out every last detail ( Unless your collaborating. ;] ), which just sounds over pretentious to me.
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Re: The creative process

Post  tara on Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:35 pm

I really like this thread!! Something more should happen with it, boo.

How do you get your ideas??

I get them really random shit, most of the time. Something, an article I've read, a word, a scene, will get stuck in my head and suddenly spawn a whole story. I also get a lot of good ideas from dreams that I have. You?
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Re: The creative process

Post  Fly Hue on Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:26 pm

I started my current story from this stupid baby comic that I was just pooping around with in middle school. XD Classic, huh? I re-did the story completely about 5 times keeping nothing about the original story except for the main characters. For a long time I was able to keep the story up (it was a lot like a soap opera X] ). It was all typed up, where as before I had drawn it out in comics. I knew at the end, one of the main characters would die, and I would track his afterlife in hell. I got really excited with that part and cut everything in between so I could start working on that part. It didn't matter at the time because this was all just for me and I wasn't posting stuff. X) So I started designing my own mythology about Hell that I would do based on research that I did got about ten pages in and it died all over again.
Finally, to where I am now: After so many attempts I'd grown attached to my characters, and expecting me to abandon the whole thing again I gave it another shot anyway. I know there was some movie that I had watched that had inspired me, can't remember what it was though! XD I'd decided that I had really liked working with angels and Hell and other religious research that I had done, so I wanted to use MORE of that and not wait for it to come in at the end, so I started doing a TON of research so as to give me plenty of material to work with. I thought that looking up the hierarchy of angels would be a good place to start, and then I found that this stuff was more interesting to me than I thought it would be. I binged on angels for a long time, I bought big, boring reference books, watched cheesy movies... It was a subject that really captured me. Suddenly a subject that I thought would have only a background influence on the story completely took over and I let it because ... for the first time I was getting somewhere with my story.
At this point... (nearing 300 pages and such) I just have to continue on principle. Yes, I feel really passionate and excited about my story, but the main drive for me is that this time I want to finish what I started!

Got a bit ramble-y. To answer the question short: Research. I'm inspired by the research I do.
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Re: The creative process

Post  Fly Hue on Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:28 pm

Oh, and The Cure. XD

Anyone who reads my comic is very aware of that!
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Re: The creative process

Post  greven on Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:17 am

I get my inspiration from strange places, well pretty much all over the place. I dont write books like it seems most of you do, I write short stories because I like to take pictures of moments and put them into writing, instead of building on some epic storyline. Besides, as long as I write short stories I dont have to worry about anyone publishing my work. The thing is that everyone in my family think I should get someone to publish it, and I know for sure than none of the stuf I write is nearly good enough to be printed, so as long as I keep my stories short I can use it as an excuse for not trying to get it published.
I get a lot of ideas from just watching day to day life and trying to put a supernatural spin to normal things. I also find myself very inspired from movies but I try to supres that as it can completely ruin my work when I do work on longer stories. I have written quite a few stories based on a single word or sentence as well.
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Re: The creative process

Post  Joneko on Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:50 pm

Everything, I get my ideas from everything. Some of the basic underlying elements of Piper are from personal experiences or experiences of friends. The new bits-and-pieces writing I'm working on is inspired in part by a background I started forming for a character in an RP of mine and Rei's, where I pulled ideas from Romani song and history, Native American culture and history, specific art movements, the frantic thought-based narrative writing style of a few people I read, and the songs of a group called Celtic Thunder, mostly those dealing with the warring state of Ireland.

A lot of my ideas I draw from history. A lot. I find that I like reading bits of nonfiction, often, more than I do fiction, because it makes me think. For some reason, a lot of fictitious prose makes me feel like someone is handing me their ideas. I don't know if it's stifling, or if it's just that I haven't found the right people to read, or what. But the things that give me the most ideas are nonfiction -- oh, and cross-disciplinary arts! I have snippets of a writing piece I had hoped to create but had no idea for or of what, and it came to me just by perusing one of my awesome $20-on-sale oversized artbooks from Borders that no one seems to want. I get a lot of ideas just by staring and studying and staring some more at others' art, especially in the neoclassical and art-nouveau movements. Or something in a particular song will catch me -- not always a lyric, sometimes something as subtle as a seven-second drum beat -- that will for whatever reason spark something that might snowball, and it's not uncommon for me to listen to the same song on repeat for a collective two or three hours. (Right now, the back-beat of the Irish drums in "Ireland's Call" and the first fifteen or twenty seconds or so, pre-vocals, of "Heartland," plus the words which inspired in part the backstory for the last piece I put on deviantart.)

And mythology. Mythology is a good one too.
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Re: The creative process

Post  greven on Mon Apr 13, 2009 8:56 pm

Mythology is a great one, northen and greek seems best to mean. And let us not forget the bible, even for a none believer like me it is an awesome book. No book has more quotes worthy of intire novels written about them.

The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.


....pulp fiction for the win.
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Re: The creative process

Post  Avie on Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:49 am

Ooh lovely topic !
I am not sure where to start. Ha.
Okay. Mannnyyy years ago I started writing little stories because I mostly used it as an outlet but as I got older (don't spite me for saying this, writers) I lost the satisfaction. I wanted to really elaborate a story well and writing it wasn't enough. Thus, I started sketching comics whenever I wanted to describe a moment or feeling.
My creative process is collecting ideas, one-by-one, and writing them down in handy sketchbooks (ironically I don't use specific ones for 'sketching'). If anything inspires me or catches my fancy, I write it down and put it away. Then, within time, I pick and choose what works and go from there.
Note: That is how my comic, Sandstorm, was born. I had written my ideas for the actual comic five years ago but I started sketching it just last year (after discovering my old sketchbook retaining the notes for it).

I look at the "creative process" as a natural thing. I don't force anything. I just let things flow in a timely fashion. Experiences, memories, stories, people.... I use all of those. In a whole, most of my comics represent me in many ways. My characters in Sandstorm have summed up most of my persona/experiences/and tastes. I never even realized it until recently. I was in quite a shock. Ha.
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Re: The creative process

Post  greven on Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:53 am

Notes and sketchbooks. I have never in my life been able to use those to any good. If I get an idea for a story I write it asap all the way through. I cant do notes or sketches or anything of that sort, I have to work in the flair of the moment.
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